Monday, March 06, 2017

Ben Carson refers to slaves as ‘immigrants’ in first speech to HUD




OK!! Ben Carson....I can't! Immigrants ? In the bottom of SLAVE SHIPS??!! MUTHAFUKKA PLEASE!!!


Ben Carson..please read or watch Roots, most immigrants come here VOLUNTARILY,cant't really say the same about the slaves..they were stolen

Nathan Engle • 3 hours ago
For such an educated man Dr Carson comes up with some surprisingly bad ideas.

guitarman121  Nathan Engle • 3 hours ago
Why?? Some immigrants DID come here on slave ships.

Nathan Engle  guitarman121 • 2 hours ago
It all comes down to homonyms - two words that sound the same. An emigrant is a person who decides to leave someplace and go somewhere else. They become an immigrant when they arrive at their new home. Slaves made no decision. They were kidnapped, sold like chattel, carried like baggage.  It's like that quote from Malcolm X, slaves didn't land on Plymouth Rock, it landed on them. Trying to compare the arrival of slaves with the arrival of Pilgrims or Irish or Hispanics is ridiculous.

Li  guitarman121 • 2 hours ago
Who? Can you name the ones that came on the boat by the millions? Stowaways is one thing, slaves on slave ships is another.

Procax Nothus  guitarman121 • 2 hours ago
There were some slavers down there too.

Icreatejobs  guitarman121 • 2 hours ago
If they paid you for your the ignorance in your posts, , you'd be rich.

John Hackley  Icreatejobs • 2 hours ago
RE: guitarman121: Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

guitarman121  Icreatejobs • 2 hours ago
Challenge my point.

cupcake6  guitarman121 • an hour ago
he did, asked which one and you didn't answer. Which immigrants?

Jennifer Lynch Wheatley  guitarman121 • an hour ago
More 'alternative facts' ....

“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain. Now all the archaeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big — when you stop and think about it, and I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time — to store that much grain.” ~ Dr. Ben Carson, Commencement Speech, Andrews University, 1998

Please keep defending the bottom of the barrel...

turquoisewaters • 17 minutes ago
Way too many loonies in this cabinet. First DeVos with her grizzlies, Ben Carson ... Really, there are more qualified people out there. Why does the nation have to put up with these people that have nothing but connections and donation money going for them?

turquoisewaters • 24 minutes ago
People think he must be smart because he is a neurosurgeon, but that seems to be a very specialized skill. He may be good with his hands, but not so much with his words.That was a pretty outrageous thing to say.

Doc2222  turquoisewaters • 6 minutes ago
He must be an idiot savant.

Go Figure • 2 hours ago
Immigrants? African American slaves were not immigrants-- they were prisoners. He sure fits in with the Trump administration, we can all agree on that.

By that reasoning, Jews were involuntary immigrants to concentration camps and ghettos in other countries. Really? They may have been moved from their country of origin - but clearly they were prisoners - not "immigrants". I know I shouldn't be surprised at the idiocy of Carson - but I am.

Truth_the_Whole_Truth • 2 hours ago
Do we call "Native Americans" who crossed by foot across continental land bridges immigrant "tourists"?

JeanSC  Truth_the_Whole_Truth • 2 hours ago
I think the people who keep saying "we're all immigrants" are deliberately giving short shrift to the First Nations; we might see this in their political decisions and disrespect for them. And BTW, scientists now think that some Native Americans came here by boat from northeast Asia.

Doc2222 • 8 minutes ago
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

owl905  Doc2222 • 5 minutes ago
The place where the Ministry of Plenty rations food.

owl905 • 13 minutes ago
From the tailing pond that brought you 'tell it like it is' and 'reject political correctness' comes a bigger piece of spin than the rotor on an Apache gunship. Ben Carson just delivered a new Administration low with his interpretation of kidnapping, imprisonment, auction as property, probable rape and torture, and a certain death sentence ... as "involuntary immigration".
The first step should be to attach him to an EEG and determine if there's brain damage at the root of his ugly utterance.

JeanSC • 2 hours ago
The word "immigrant" can be defined to cover abroad spectrum of foreigners, as long as you add the correct adjective in front of it: "legal immigrant," "illegal immigrant." In Carson's way of using the word, slaves would be called "involuntary immigrants." Linguistically, I don't think there's anything incorrect about this - as long as the adjectives are there. It's still an awful euphemism, and unfortunately can be used to include people who were on a plane which was hijacked and flown to another country, with the hapless passengers being kicked out there. These people are not slaves. But Ben, it's so much easier to call slaves "slaves." The slavery status is more important than their foreign origin.
But Carson was WAY wrong in thinking that the first generation of slaves, those enduring the Middle Passage, had a dream about their descendants, and that it was placed here. I'm pretty sure those slaves had dreams about getting their own freedom while they were still alive, and being able to go home, like yesterday.

Go Figure  JeanSC • 2 hours ago
Yeah, right. By that reasoning, Jews were involuntary immigrants to concentration camps in other countries. Really? That's your argument?

owl905  JeanSC • 18 minutes ago
You should go back and redo elementary school, and get some sensitivity therapy on the side. Slavery wasn't an 'involuntary immigration' - it was life sentence and a death sentence.

John Hackley • 2 hours ago
Well qualified to be Secretary of HUD! He lives in a house, right?

veej7485 • 3 hours ago
ameture hour

Truth_the_Whole_Truth • 2 hours ago
PC police said "illegal immigrant" and "Muslim extremist" were not acceptable so Ben Carson does the same for "slaves" and the PC police do not like it!

relO627  Truth_the_Whole_Truth • 2 hours ago
Yea cause slaves are not immigrants.

guitarman121 • 3 hours ago
That bradd guy sure seems angry about something. These liberals are just ready to pounce on any republican because they are STILL mad that queen hillary lost.

Jennifer Lynch Wheatley  guitarman121 • an hour ago
Guitar man - this is how I see your argument..
Anybody else "but in the article Ben Carson clearly stated that the sky was blue." Guitarman response "no he clearly stated that the sky was red, you just can't comprehend it." Anybody else "here is the article verbatim and his speech - Ben Carson said and I quote "the sky is blue." guitar man you come back and say "no he said it was…" guitarman when are you going to stop gaslighting...you are quite laughable in your predictability.

cupcake6  guitarman121 • an hour ago
lame, you are still obsessed with Hilary huh ? move on

relO627  guitarman121 • 2 hours ago
Is that your guess?

guitarman121 • 3 hours ago
"Ben Carson just referred to *slaves* as "immigrants""

No, he didn't.

relO627  guitarman121 • 2 hours ago
So the willing people on slave ships were the immigrants?

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